–Son and grandson of political prisoners, were you born with a vocation for politics or do you intend to make it your modus vivendi ?
– I come from a home where politics was an example. My grandfather – one of the hostesses of the political team close to Salvador Allende – was an exile from the Augusto Pinochet dictatorship. Dad came to Venezuela in his middle adolescence and tried to return to Chile to take the armed road, which was what the MIR had decided at that time; Due to fate, he was unable to make contacts and seeing that there was no Chilean resistance, he returned to Venezuela with his testimony of militancy and assuming his armed struggle, his insurrectionary paths, but at the time he realized that those were not the correct paths. . And Mom, secretary of the left wing in the National Congress, was the link between the clandestine and the legal in the political façade of that dynamic. So for me politics at home ends up being a given, a very natural practice. And I speak of politics understood as service; We have never been an ostentatious or wealthy family, and that phrase of Che, “the revolution is not carried in the mouth to live on it”, was never used as a mechanism of aspiration or social improvement. In high school, my first fight was over my rejection of pre-military education; I was studying at a Franciscan school and the idea of a military man approaching me to impose order on me, I did not like. So I started to organize myself, to distribute flyers … and they threw me out! (laughs) At the UCV I understood that the student movement or student demands go far beyond a protest, a march. They have to do with scholarships; with the transportation routes that make it possible for the student who lives far or has few economic resources to get to the university; With the free dining rooms – in Latin America, the Central dining room, for example, the largest number of people go per day, and that is not said or demonstrated enough. At UCV I learned how organization and service, with good political direction, can work to achieve the changes we need and have a critical mass for what corresponds to us, not as a crumb or favor, but as an acquired right.
– To carry out the political struggle, three qualities are important: passion, time and measure …
– I am deeply passionate, also for a reason: against optimism there is no vaccine. And to do politics in Venezuela, you have to have faith in the people, keep optimism high, because you know you can be better than you are today, that makes you have passion. Forgive me for being anecdotal when I talk to you about Valle del Pino, Vargas or Autana in Amazonas, where I was able to talk with its people and listen to them, where problems turned into opportunities. If those people didn’t give up, why should I give up? The person who is in the day to day and who sometimes does not understand its political connotation, gets up every morning to pigeon to life, to work to bring bread home. These are the people who inspire my daily life, the engine that I turn on every day; I’m an early riser more because of family discipline than anything else.
I am 26 years old and I have plenty of time – although I entered politics at 13 – and to say that I have made my career is counterproductive because it would be limiting myself to an evolution that is natural. I think my generation made the mistake, at some point, of wanting to do things “now for now”; If you look back and go back to 2007, when we broke in, you will realize how many there were and how many we are today; which shows the existence of two diametrically opposed visions of how to understand politics. There are those who understand that politics, as good service or good science, has a method and a discipline that tells us that sometimes you are an anvil and others, a hammer, that is, sometimes you are high up and you are the one who speaks, in addition to putting the guidelines,
– Your father and grandfather opposed the dictatorship of Augusto Pinochet, Miguel Pizarro, what and who is he opposed to?
– I do not personify for a reason: the response-reflection of some opposition leader would be “I am against Maduro and his bad government.” But if we change Maduro and not the way of understanding power relations, we will do the same. I am against injustice, inequalities, egalitarianism decreed by trickery, but I am in favor of equal opportunities so that everyone, with their tools, can build their future. I am against the social differences marked by power, hatred, intolerance, immediacy, magic solutions, but, above all, demagoguery. If something makes me wake up, it is the vindication of politics, and this goes through the sieve of seriousness. The politician understands that it is better to turn red once, than to turn pink ten times; that there are truths that are painful, but they must be said – if they were said at the right time, we would save headaches and scenarios that are difficult to collect over time. I am a resounding opponent of anti-politics, of those visions that simplify life and that do not allow us to recognize ourselves by nuances, origins and ways of seeing things. I believe in service and in the individual as he understands that he is collective, that his environment is much more than himself, that the country is much more than what we see today. I am in favor of permanent changes; Rigid, dogmatic and orthodox societies are the ones that remain behind, therefore, they have to evolve and to do so they must have the necessary tools to do so and that, clearly, this government does not give them. but you have to say them – if they were said at the right time, we would save headaches and scenarios that over time are difficult to pick up. I am a resounding opponent of anti-politics, of those visions that simplify life and that do not allow us to recognize ourselves by nuances, origins and ways of seeing things. I believe in service and in the individual as he understands that he is collective, that his environment is much more than himself, that the country is much more than what we see today. I am in favor of permanent changes; Rigid, dogmatic and orthodox societies are the ones that remain behind, therefore, they have to evolve and to do so they must have the necessary tools to do so and that, clearly, this government does not give them. but you have to say them – if they were said at the right time, we would save headaches and scenarios that over time are difficult to pick up. I am a resounding opponent of anti-politics, of those visions that simplify life and that do not allow us to recognize ourselves by nuances, origins and ways of seeing things. I believe in service and in the individual as he understands that he is collective, that his environment is much more than himself, that the country is much more than what we see today. I am in favor of permanent changes; Rigid, dogmatic and orthodox societies are the ones that remain behind, therefore, they have to evolve and to do so they must have the necessary tools to do so and that, clearly, this government does not give them. We would save headaches and scenarios that over time are difficult to collect. I am a resounding opponent of anti-politics, of those visions that simplify life and that do not allow us to recognize ourselves by nuances, origins and ways of seeing things. I believe in service and in the individual as he understands that he is collective, that his environment is much more than himself, that the country is much more than what we see today. I am in favor of permanent changes; Rigid, dogmatic and orthodox societies are the ones that remain behind, therefore, they have to evolve and to do so they must have the necessary tools to do so and that, clearly, this government does not give them. We would save headaches and scenarios that over time are difficult to collect. I am a resounding opponent of anti-politics, of those visions that simplify life and that do not allow us to recognize ourselves by nuances, origins and ways of seeing things. I believe in service and in the individual as he understands that he is collective, that his environment is much more than himself, that the country is much more than what we see today. I am in favor of permanent changes; Rigid, dogmatic and orthodox societies are the ones that remain behind, therefore, they have to evolve and to do so they must have the necessary tools to do so and that, clearly, this government does not give them. of those visions that simplify life and that do not allow us to recognize ourselves by nuances, origins and ways of seeing things. I believe in service and in the individual as he understands that he is collective, that his environment is much more than himself, that the country is much more than what we see today. I am in favor of permanent changes; Rigid, dogmatic and orthodox societies are the ones that remain behind, therefore, they have to evolve and to do so they must have the necessary tools to do so and that, clearly, this government does not give them. of those visions that simplify life and that do not allow us to recognize ourselves by nuances, origins and ways of seeing things. I believe in service and in the individual as he understands that he is collective, that his environment is much more than himself, that the country is much more than what we see today. I am in favor of permanent changes; Rigid, dogmatic and orthodox societies are the ones that remain behind, therefore, they have to evolve and to do so they must have the necessary tools to do so and that, clearly, this government does not give them.
– If a Chavista were to investigate and study his political DNA, what would he find?
– Since the colony, our country has always resisted the iron authoritarianism, the authority imposed on the punches. If the DNA of the Venezuelan is reviewed, it will be found that our policy – unlike the European or North American one – is not the real politik.We have never been a country of great intellectuals who have written three hundred essays and read millions of books; we are from day-to-day politics. In the political DNA of the Venezuelan is the bet that he fights a lot “for what looks like me”, that means that there are many politicians who insist that our fights take place in the field of principles – they direct democracy, freedom, equality. But people need politicians who understand, assume, speak out and fight for that day-to-day – queues, scarcity, insecurity, etc.-. That is the current dynamic, however, 20 years ago it was corruption, the march of assholes; 40 years ago it was the insurrectional struggle and the search for mechanisms that would make public and accessible the social rights that were privatized and 100 years ago it was education, access to religious texts, but in the end, if one reviews the constant in our political history, there is something that has been permanent: our country has always fought for its rightful within the dynamics of day to day. Without pretending to be Robespierre or Marx, we have always had people with a lot of popular wisdom.